bill betz @betzw ?
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Hi Craig,
Welcome back. Did you ever visit Bulah Walls, who had a little ranch on Pebble Crrek (just north of Rock Creek)? We have had a cabin up there since 1973. If you visited back then, you should come back some time. We are the highest cabin in the valley (which had 6 houses then, about 30 now).
Best wishes,
Bill Betz
In reply to - Craig Stockwell started the forum topic Update?? in the group Climbing and Scrambling in the Gore Range: I worked in the Gore for Outward Bound as an instructor in the late 70′s. Would like to return and bring my grown daughters. Anything much changed? Any particular restrictions on camping? Is OB still there? · View -
The snotel remote weather station on Rock Creek reported the lowest amount of snow for this date in the 32 year history of records. The amount of snow is more typical of about May 6, not March 24. See http://www.sgrhoa.net/snowpublic.htm
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Hi Jim,
We’re away on holiday for another week. But I noticed that the snow depth at the Rock Creek Snotel station on January 5 was the lowest for that date in the history of record-keeping at the site – dating back 32 years.See http://www.sgrhoa.net/snowpublic.htm
Aloha,
Bill
In reply to - Jim Gabriel posted an update: Anybody been up and in the Gore Range in the last week or so? · View -
The pictures were great. He went into Black Creek on the secret super trail, following it to its end, then up the south fork and over the ridge to Bubble Lake (just like Theron’s trip of a few years ago). Then across the middle fork and up the east slope of Powell to the summit. Then down and over to the north fork, up onto Dora’s summit, and down into Cataract. Nice trip. He missed the waterfall coming out of Bubble Lake, and vows to return to see that.
In reply to - Jim Gabriel posted an update: Man, I bet that John Fielder deal was cool. Did anybody make it? Bill? I get get goose bumps just hearing ”Black Creek.” · View -
Small world! Abe and I chatted while working out at the Stapleton Rec Center, not knowing who each other is – then we made the curious connection that we have read each other’s posts here.
Also, this Wednesday evening, John Fielder will give a Gore Range presentation at the Silverthorne Town Center, which includes photos of his one week trip in 2010 up Black Creek. It’s to benefit Friends of Eagles Nest Wilderness. ($15)
In reply to - Abe started the forum topic Cabins in the Gores in the group Climbing and Scrambling in the Gore Range : Hello, A buddy and I stayed the night at the Deluge Lake Cabin this past weekend and had a blast (it snowed 1′+ on us and the winds were ferocious on Sat. night)! I was wondering about any other [...] · View -
In reply to - Jim Gabriel posted an update: holy spam show. its unfortunate. · View
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Hi Abe,
I’m not sure how comfy you like your cabins, but there is an old (110+ years) mining cabin up on Keller Mountain that the owners – the Cooper family – have always allowed others to use. See http://www.sgrhoa.net/cooper.htm for a bit of information. Let me know if it is of interest to you.
Best wishes,
Bill Betz
In reply to - Abe started the forum topic Cabins in the Gores in the group Climbing and Scrambling in the Gore Range : Hello, A buddy and I stayed the night at the Deluge Lake Cabin this past weekend and had a blast (it snowed 1′+ on us and the winds were ferocious on Sat. night)! I was wondering about any other [...] · View -
bill betz commented on the blog post East Booth Pass-Druid Pass Lollipop Loop 7 months, 1 week ago · View
so beautiful! I am awed and envious.
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Hi Scott,
What a great trip you have planned! Best of luck, especially day 4 – Powell, then down Black Creek and over to Slate – that’s a long day. I hope you’ll post a trip report and some pictures.
Bill BetzIn reply to - Scott Shirey posted an update: Alright, going in solo tomorrow for 6 days / 5 nights. Here is the plan walking out my back door in Frisco Tuesday afternoon: Day 1: North Tenmile – Gore Range Trail to camp at Eccles Pass. Day 2: cross Eccles and Red Buffalo Pass – down Gore Creek Trail – [...] · View -
bill betz posted an update in the group
Hiking the Gore Range: 9 months, 1 week ago · ViewI am planning to go from Brush Creek, up Black Creek, and over to Piney, then up Piney and over to Booth, and out to the Booth Creek TH. BUT – can I get over to Piney from the SOUTH fork of Black Creek? I think I maybe could if Jim Gabriel would agree to lead the trip….
Maybe we take turns leading. There’s a slight saddle east of ”H” that has potential. I would love to climb ”Straight Arrow” to the summit of ”H.” I don’t know how much snow will be left, but I’d be willing to have a look. It was pretty fat a few weeks ago. There’s 2 options right there. That puts us right at Upper Piney. Oh, what about hitting June Pass and hitting ”G” and Black BM? I don’t think I can pull it off until the beginning of October though. I call it 3 days. You know the time frame better to the upper South fork. This sounds really cool!!! I’m gonna start looking at my pics.
Will definitely be more of a challenge than going over Kneeknocker, guys. Sounds fantastic!
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Hi Jim,
What a great trip! I followed it using a topo, and tried to figure out where the named passes are located. I got Usable OK, and evidently the one between 12,710 and Peak X is unnamed, but I wasn’t sure where Middle and Bergschrund are. Is Middle the one between X and 13,245?
Still hoping to meet you in person some time…Best wishes,
Bill
In reply to - Jim Gabriel wrote a new blog post: Peak X-Day 2-Summit Day Wasn’t feeling the alpine start. I was pretty cozy. Its funny how 6:30am can feel late. The coffee was strong and oatmeal was…well, it was oatmeal. I was able to shave a 1/2 hour off my time to the top of Usable Pass by staying off [...] · View -
bill betz wrote a new blog post: View from Williams Fork range 9 months, 2 weeks ago · View
I wanted to get a panoramic picture of the Gores at dawn from the Williams Fork mountains, across the Blue River Valley from the Gores. See http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/110724/
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Hi Doug,
Those are really beautiful pictures! It’s a great hobby that you have. I took a few pics of the falls coming out of Bubble Lake, they are at http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/100712/ – see numbers 56 and 57 (there is some other white water at numbers 62-64 (south fork, Black Creek). As for access from the east, the road up Black Creek is private and my efforts to get access permission were totally rebuffed. The easiest way in is to park at the Brush Creek Trailhead (the road up from the highway is terrible), then go in on the magnificent ”secret” trail that is not on the USGS topo. That will get you about half way there; the rest is bushwhacking. I posted a map at http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/bubblelakeroute.jpg.
Also, the falls on the south fork of Slate Creek are beautiful. I think Theron has pictures from July. I was there much later (September), and there was less water (see http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/100917/ numbers 55 and 56).
Good luck, and keep in touch.
Bill
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Hi Jim,
I will look forward to a tour – my Spanish teacher, who is an expert backcountry skier, wants to go up Keller in February.
By the way, the link above to the pictures from our December visit to the cabin has changed. The new one is http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/101220/.
In reply to - bill betz posted an update: (I think that I inadvertantly posted that last update) We were up at our cabin on Pebble Creek last weekend, and about 2’ of snow fell in about 2 days. It was beautiful, but the relatively warm temperatures (highs in low 30s) made for some heavier snow than we are used [...] · View -
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Jim, I think that you are the new soul of the Gore Range. I hope to meet you in person some time.
In reply to - bill betz posted an update: (I think that I inadvertantly posted that last update) We were up at our cabin on Pebble Creek last weekend, and about 2’ of snow fell in about 2 days. It was beautiful, but the relatively warm temperatures (highs in low 30s) made for some heavier snow than we are used [...] · View -
(I think that I inadvertantly posted that last update)
We were up at our cabin on Pebble Creek last weekend, and about 2’ of snow fell in about 2 days. It was beautiful, but the relatively warm temperatures (highs in low 30s) made for some heavier snow than we are used to this time of year. Some pictures at http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/2010/101220/.Nice pics Bill. Finally out of the Christmas madness at the shop. Ready to get back at it. Going dawn patrol south of Uneva tomorrow. Looks like that moist snow is turning into a hard slab. Dangerous stuff when that fractures. Recent activity on North-Northeast slopes. Safe travels to one and all.
Jim, I think that you are the new soul of the Gore Range. I hope to meet you in person some time.
Thanks, that’s quite a compliment. All I can say is something comes alive in me when I get in the flow of the Gore Range. A very special place indeed. If you have any interest in a ski tour sometime this winter or spring, I’m off Thursdays and Fridays. Was looking across from Vail at Outpost today…a fine day of touring and skiing that looks to be. Happy New Year. Look forward to hooking up with you.
Hi Jim,
I will look forward to a tour – my Spanish teacher, who is an expert backcountry skier, wants to go up Keller in February.
By the way, the link above to the pictures from our December visit to the cabin has changed. The new one is http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/101220/.
Hi Bill, if you guys are planning a keller trip and wouldn’t mind dragging me along, keep me in the loop. I’m off on Thurs and Fridays. With some heads up, I can make arrangements for different days. Safe travels.
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I had a wonderful hike up Pitkin, over Might Pass, and down and out on Slate Creek. The weather was perfect. That picture of the gendarme at Might Pass was a big help. I posted some pictures at http://www.sgrhoa.net/betz/100917.
Well done! Yes, it takes forever to get out of that valley. The lack of trails and the presence of thick brush doesn’t help. I thought that was tougher than the Black Creek drainage. Slate Lake itself is huge. Seemed like it took forever to get around that. Waterfall shot in July: http://www.gorerange.info/wp-content/gallery/peak-s-south-slate-drainage/falls1.jpg
Great pics Bill. Looks like a wonderful time was had.
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Thanks, Jim. I looked at your pictures – man, you really get around. Come visit us on Pebble Creek sometime (log cabin, end of the road).
Bill
In reply to - bill betz started the forum topic theron's 2003 trip in the group Climbing and Scrambling in the Gore Range : Hi Theron, I’d like to repeat your route (Pitkin, Might Pass, South Slate) next weekend (Aug 29), but I am a little worried about the descent into Slate. It seems like you did not take the Might Pass route [...] · View -
bill betz posted on the forum topic theron's 2003 trip in the group
Climbing and Scrambling in the Gore Range: 1 year, 9 months ago · ViewHi Theron, Thanks for your helpful reply. What a great website you have created! Best wishes, Bill PS Your email reply said it was from “Jim Gabriel” – here is the complete message that I received: “Jim Gabriel replied to one of your updates: “Hey Bill. I uploaded a couple shots of what appears to [...]
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